Discussion for: Leader Board Performance vs. Market

Okay I think I may just track the top 15 of each of the 4 leader boards I started tracking. It just takes a lot of time to check each one manually. If anyone wants to do more the data is available here 4.

Strategies were selected on 6/16/2020 and monitored through to 7/25/2020. There was no re-balancing of the strategies.

It is obviously too early to tell the long term results but that is pretty interesting start.

• Full disclosure I run an IRA friendly strategy myself, but don’t want to directly market my strategy, which is why I am posting under this unrelated account. I just honestly believe that in the long run futures and forex strategies are prone to using too much leverage and shooting themselves in the foot.

It has been approximately 3 months since I started tracking the top 15 strategies on various leader boards. I am now re-balancing this hypothetical portfolio. Below is a table for the summary of results for the first 3 months of results. Also below is a table with the details of this last 3 months and a table declaring what strategies I will be tracking for the next three month period.

Please let me know if you have any thoughts comments or suggestions. Definitely let me know if you spot any errors. I think if the results continue in a similar patter, C2 should consider putting more focus on Old Timers and IRA friendly strategies. Also, if there is any way C2 could develop a plan that would allow subscribers to spread smaller accounts across a basket of strategies such as old timers or IRA friendly would be very interesting. Say I have only $30,000 available to allocate to C2. I would much rather distribute $2,000 to each of the top 15 Old Timer strategies for a reasonable fee than pay $100 or so to each of the 15 strategies. I realize there are plenty of limitations such as no asset under management fee etc. So there may be no way to do such a thing, but if there was a way to implement such a program I think it could be very popular. Perhaps too popular for too little money though. I have no idea.

@DogZebra_Investing and @RJV63 thank you. It means a lot. It is definitely more work than I originally intended. I am glad people are finding it as interesting as I am.

I finally updated my forward test. Here are the summary of the results.

Here is the completed table for this period of 9/12/2020 to 5/24/2021

Here is the table with a snapshot of the current 15 tops strategies in each category at this moment that I will manually check in a few months or later.

I just think this is extremely fascinating. I wish I had taken a snapshot of the TOS leaderboard on 6/16/2020 when I started this, but based on the 9/12/2021 to 5/24/2021 summary table It seems like it would have likely underperformed the market on a total return basis.

I don’t know what the right metric is to identify systems that will work well in markets like we had over the last year, but for some reason what was used on the popularity and C2 boards seems to be particularly not it.